{"id":1337,"date":"2009-08-07T18:00:09","date_gmt":"2009-08-07T23:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bigbfiles.wordpress.com\/?p=174"},"modified":"2009-08-07T18:00:09","modified_gmt":"2009-08-07T23:00:09","slug":"the-ye-ole-big-b-files-mailbox-version-3-01-julyaugust-2009","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bigbmultimedia.com\/bigbfiles\/the-ye-ole-big-b-files-mailbox-version-3-01-julyaugust-2009\/","title":{"rendered":"The ye \u2018ole Big B Files Mailbox – Version 3.01 (July\/August, 2009)"},"content":{"rendered":"

Responding to feedback that has come into the Ye \u2018ole Big B Files Mailbox is the subject of this Big B File.<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is once again time to delve into the Ye \u2018ole Big B Files Mailbox . . . . It\u2019s been too long and the box is full.\u00a0 A large amount of feedback is in response to the Big B Files commentary Christian Persecution in America. . .What Christian Persecution in America?<\/span><\/strong><\/a> from Monday, July 16, 2007\u2026which we will delve into in a moment.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 First, we will address the feedback in regard to the Big B File from September 6, 2008.\u00a0\u00a0 The Big B files has been mulling over the following comment submitted by Mike (mrparmele) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 in response to the Big B File \u201c<\/cite>Abortion: a woman\u2019s right to\u00a0choose\u2026what?<\/a>\u201d.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “I think that it is a bit intellectually dishonest of you to lump everyone expressing a prochoice opinion into the group of people who want \u201cabortion on demand and without any restrictions.\u201d I am certain that there are many people in this country who feel that it is not the place of government to dictate to a woman what she does with her body and, at the same time, would never make that choice or (in the case of men) would never put their partners in a position to make that choice.
\nWhile I do not consider myself the defender of the prochoice position, or consider you the defender of the anti-abortion position, I would ask a question along the same lines as your post above: Why does the anti-abortion movement claim the mantle of being \u201cpro-life\u201d when the vast majority of the movement also approves of capital punishment? I am not assuming that you do, I am merely making an observation that I feel mirrors yours about the language used in this debate. If, as has been espoused many times by the anti-abortion movement, the taking of life is the soul province of God, then how is it not hypocritical to disapprove of abortion and approve and support the government\u2019s taking of life, subverting the province of God?<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Just wondering, just found your web site, I hope that this could start useful discussions about many topics\u2026thanks for the chance to comment.”<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0Mike (mrparmele) on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 <\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I believe Mike is referring to the part of the Big B File where I wrote \u201cThe people that say they are pro choice always tell us that they are pro choice because they want to \u201cprotect a woman\u2019s right to choose.\u201d Okay fine . . . a woman\u2019s right to choose what . . . abortion or want? What is the other option besides abortion? The Big B Files would like to have those who are pro-choice and support abortion to answer those two very simple questions. Simple question, HUH?\u201d<\/em>\u00a0 I read over the Big B File and did not find anywhere in the Big B File \u201cAbortion: a woman\u2019s right to\u00a0choose\u2026what?<\/em><\/a>\u201d<\/em> where you said that I lumped everyone expressing a prochoice opinion into the group of people who want \u201cabortion on demand and without any restrictions.\u201d In the Big B File I even sent your comment to a friend of mine, Deacon Jim Rupp of Charleston, IL.\u00a0\u00a0 I believe Deacon Jim put it best when he wrote to me this:<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cWhen Pope John Paul II wrote his encyclical The Gospel of Life, <\/em>he not only explained the Church’s longstanding position against abortion, but also wrote of the sinfulness of euthanasia<\/strong> and also the growing awareness of the evil of capital punishment<\/strong>.\u00a0 Paragraph 2267 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church also comes as close as any other document in practically forbidding<\/span> the use of capital punishment, when it says, “Today, in fact, ….the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity are very rare, if not practically non-existent.”<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I would also recommend reading The Seamless Garment, <\/em>by the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin.\u00a0 In it, he nicely weaves together the various modern threats to the sanctity of life, and challenges Catholics to be opposed to not only abortion, but also euthanasia and the death penalty.\u00a0 Mike is correct in saying that abortion is not the only evil that we must in conscience oppose.\u00a0 But when we consider the 3500+ children that are murdered every day in the U.S. by abortion, then the number of people who are threatened by either euthanasia or capital punishment is very tiny, by comparison.\u00a0 All human life is precious, but we must naturally speak out against and work more strenuously to eradicate the monstrous evil of abortion.\u00a0 It is only right that we keep our priorities straight.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u00a0—Deacon Jim Rupp<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Big B Files believes that it is being intellectually honest to ask . . .as was done in the Big B File \u201cAbortion: a woman\u2019s right to\u00a0choose\u2026what?<\/a>\u201d . . . what is essentially the central argument of the Pro-Choice Movement, whether you support abortion on demand\u2026with or without restrictions or conditions of any kind.\u00a0 You brought up a few good points in your feedback.\u00a0 That includes the comment \u201cJust wondering, just found your web site, I hope that this could start useful discussions about many topics\u2026thanks for the chance to comment.\u201d of which I agree with you on.\u00a0 As far as your hope that the Big B Files could start useful discussions about many topics, that is the whole Idea of the Big B Files since its inception began in 2003. . . so spread the word about the Big B Files and you are most welcome for the chance to comment.<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The rest of the feedback mentioned below comes in relation to the Big B Files Christian Persecution in America. . .What Christian Persecution in America?<\/a>, Judas, Jesus Christ and the 30 pieces of silver, <\/a>Blocking the Return of the Fairness Doctrine & Protecting the First Amendment<\/a>, and Hate Crimes Laws & You AND Your Pastor\u2019s Free Speech Rights<\/a> . . . . with the vast majority of the comments coming in relation to the Big B File Christian Persecution in America. . .What Christian Persecution in America?<\/a> & Judas, Jesus Christ and the 30 pieces of silver<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “I read your piece above. I am a baptized Catholic and am tired of being persecuted by ignorant zealots who don\u2019t know the first thing about Catholicism. But the reason I am dropping you a line is to suggest you run spell check\/grammar check on your editorial. There are many errors, and corrections would make your arguments for non-persecution read as much more viable. Good luck to you.”<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Suzanne Byrne<\/span><\/a> \u2014 Sunday, December 2, 2007<\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well put Suzanne, and thanks so much for the heads up on the errors . . . .especially the spelling errors (which have since been fixed)! Not doing spell check on a final example did me in on a college final exam . . . very hard lesson learned.\u00a0 I want to thank Anthropomorphous for his comments, especially the one about the Big B Files website overall. . . and by the way, you are welcome.<\/p>\n

Somehow I missed the point. Probably lost in translation Anyway \u2026 nice blog to visit.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

cheers, Anthropomorphous.<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Anthropomorphous<\/span><\/a> \u2014 Thursday, June 19, 2008<\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Big B Files was touched to be a source for a school research paper written by Stevie this past winter.<\/p>\n

Good job. What else do you have? This was really helpful for the paper I\u2019m writing. I\u2019m serious. I\u2019m writing a research paper on how persecution isn\u2019t really non-existent and not just a thing of the past and your post helped.<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Stevie \u2014 Wednesday, December 10, 2008<\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think that we cannot complain about persecution. It is something we have to stand through, not up against. We need to accept that we will be persecuted.<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>PR \u2014 Saturday, December 13, 2008<\/cite><\/p>\n

I love your essay. It rings so true. They scream tolerance yet are intolerant to Christians, great points!<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Jacquie \u2014 Monday, April 13, 2009<\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The rest of the feedback came in relation to the Big B File \u201cJudas, Jesus Christ and the 30 pieces of silver<\/a>\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0 A large number of the comments offered either suggestions, other examples in relation to the 30 pieces of silver itself, or other perspectives . . . which are entirely welcome.<\/p>\n

Hi Bryan,<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thanks for the article. I was reading in Exodus this morning and came across the 7 pieces of silver and thought I\u2019d search it out to see its value. I believe that in today\u2019s society, people are so driven by money, that a great percentage of people would give Jesus up for even less. This also includes some Christians, and Christian Leaders. It\u2019s really sad, but true. Thanks for raising the question and I will do the same at a small bible discussion that I\u2019m a part of on Thursday nights here in New York.<\/p>\n

God Bless,
\nNedra<\/p>\n

–<\/cite>Nedra Jones<\/span><\/a> \u2014 Monday, August 25, 2008<\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wow! I\u2019ve been wondering how much 30 pieces of silver was worth in the days when Judas betrayed Jesus. Know that I know, I concluded it was just straight greed on Judas behalf.<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Lindy \u2014 Tuesday, September 2, 2008 <\/cite><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is an interesting post and I admire the curiosity of the writer to research the current value of Judas\u2019 bribe. However, I must disagree with the conclusion of the second commenter, \u201c\u2026it was just straight greed on Judas behalf.\u201d First, when put together with the other writers, the Gospels present a picture of a Jesus who is in control of the goings on, according to Christian doctrine, he is fully GOD and fully human at the same time. In fact, in John, it appears as though Jesus picks Judas for the job of betrayal. Jesus dips a piece of bread and hands it to Judas, \u201cand Satan entered into him.\u201d Secondly, it was not the death of Jesus that redeemed the world, it was the resurrection. Without the resurrection, Jesus is nothing more than a first century Jewish prophet, of which there were hundreds. In order for the redeeming nature of the Son of God to be accomplished, the resurrection must occur and Jesus (remember, also fully God) must defeat death to reopen the gates of the Garden of Eden and allow humankind to rejoin the presence of God, as was his goal in the original creation of Adam.<\/p>\n

Nice post though, thanks for the thoughts\u2026<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Mike \u2014 Tuesday, December 30, 2008<\/cite><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The problem with this sort of simplistic calculation is that the value of land has increased substantially. Land is in static supply, whereas population is increased \u201ca little bit\u201d in the last 2,000 years, not to mention that land value is significantly altered by the value of local infrastructure.<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 According to other calculations 30 shekels would be enough to provide a person moderately well for a month. But of course, that\u2019s without all the mod cons.<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Lev Lafayette<\/span><\/a> \u2014 Tuesday, January 13, 2009<\/cite><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I have to disagree with the article\u2019s author \u2013 I\u2019m not sure how 30 pieces of silver equates to a small farm with buildings when the scriptures clearly state that it was used to purchase a field in which to bury foreigners. This would suggest a) not a viable farm and b) Land that was of little use for farming. It may even be possible that the 30 pieces of silver were an invention by some of the Jewish establishment to blacken Judas\u2019 name. More than once in the Gospels Jesus bids Judas to do \u201cwhat he HAS to do\u201d. It is also inconceivable that the Sanhedrin would need anybody to identify Jesus as He had been a thorn in their sides for some time \u2013 they would know what He looked like. Read Matthew 26:49-50 \u2013 Judas refers to Jesus as Rabbi (teacher \u2013 a term of reverence and hardly likely to be used by a betrayer) and Jesus addresses Judas as \u201cfriend\u201d.<\/p>\n

–<\/cite>graham rice \u2014 Friday, February 6, 2009 <\/cite><\/p>\n

I like this answer:<\/p>\n

\u201cThe price of a slave was 30 silver shekels (perhaps 90 days\u2019 wages). (Ex 21:32; compare Le 27:2-7.)<\/p>\n

Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, evidently the price of a slave. (Mt 26:14-16, 47-50) No doubt these silver pieces were either shekels or other coins similar in value. But the kind of coin is not specified in the account, except for their being silver.<\/p>\n

So, the price of a slave was he was paid, and that was about 90 days wages. If you want to extend to our time, think a bit above Minimum wage, times 8 times 90.
\nI used $7.25 and came up with about $5000.<\/p>\n

The money was enough to by a small plot of land for a \u201cpotter\u2019s field\u201d.<\/p>\n

3<\/span> Then Judas, who betrayed him, seeing he had been condemned, felt remorse and turned the thirty silver pieces back to the chief priests and older men, 4<\/span> saying: \u201cI sinned when I betrayed righteous blood.\u201d They said: \u201cWhat is that to us? You must see to that!\u201d 5<\/span> So he threw the silver pieces into the temple and withdrew, and went off and hanged himself. 6<\/span> But the chief priests took the silver pieces and said: \u201cIt is not lawful to drop them into the sacred treasury, because they are the price of blood.\u201d 7 <\/span>After consulting together, they bought with them the potter\u2019s field to bury strangers. 8 Therefore that field has been called \u201cField of Blood\u201d to this very day. 9<\/span> Then what was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled, saying: \u201cAnd they took the thirty silver pieces, the price upon the man that was priced, the one on whom some of the sons of Israel set a price, 10<\/span> and they gave them for the potter\u2019s field, according to what Jehovah had commanded me.\u201d<\/p>\n

This was acted out by Zechariah showing what little value they placed on him. This also applies on how little value the Jewish leaders, and Judas placed on Jesus.<\/p>\n

Zechariah 11:12<\/span> Then I said to them: \u201cIf it is good in YOUR eyes, give [me] my wages; but if not, refrain.\u201d And they proceeded to pay my wages, thirty pieces of silver.<\/p>\n

13<\/span> At that, Jehovah said to me: \u201cThrow it to the treasury\u2014the majestic value with which I have been valued from their standpoint.\u201d Accordingly I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw it into the treasury at the house of Jehovah.\u201d<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>Kieron \u2014 Saturday, April 4, 2009<\/cite><\/p>\n

I just want to say\u2026it\u2019s wonderful to see people truly discussing the Word in a positive way\u2026each gaining knowledge and seeing things in a different light\u2026.it is a blessing!!!!<\/p>\n

– <\/cite>gail \u2014 Friday, April 10, 2009<\/cite><\/p>\n

\u201cThis is an interesting discussion. I, like many of you, was very interested in finding the monetary equivalent of 30 pieces of silver in U.S. dollars. Thank you for the post. Also, in response to Mike\u2019s comment: the shedding of Jesus\u2019 blood did redeem us from our sins. Of course, it was in God\u2019s plan for Jesus to be resurrected, but if He had not willingly laid his life down for us, then our chance for salvation would not be in existence. In Matthew 26:28, the scripture says, \u2018For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.\u2019
\nIt is through the blood of Jesus Christ that we are able to have a chance at eternal life with Him.\u201d<\/p>\n

Comment by <\/cite>Brittney \u2014 Wednesday, June 17, 2009 <\/cite><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well Put Brittney . . . .well put.\u00a0 The whole point of the Big B File was to how much of a temptation is would be for us to betray Jesus today by giving an idea of how much 30 pieces of silver would buy today . . .although he has been betrayed for much less.<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that is the Big B Files Mailbox.\u00a0 As always . . . your feedback is most welcome and you can click on the comments link below and tell me what you think . . . I\u2019m Bryan Hewing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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